Hypocrisy is very pervasive in the JW's....as well as any Super Fundy Religion. When religions sets up such legalistic moral codes, the flock cannot possibly live up to all of them. The believer then forms a duality that allows him / her to function and appear pious. This duality has made one a hypocrite. IMHO, being a hypocrite is not a healthy state of being both mentally and emotionally. We should be ever vigilent about evaluating and eliminating hypocrisy from our lives.
As the Tao says:
The man of superior "righteousness" takes action, and has an ulterior motive to do so.
The man of superior "propriety" takes action,
And when people do not respond to it, he will stretch his arms and force it on them.
Sikhism says:
Some go to bathe at holy places--
With hearts impure and faculties false.
As one part of impurity they wash, twice more freshly stick to them.
They washed themselves outside; inside they are full of deadly poison.
The pure in soul are pure even without ritual bathing;
The wicked will be wicked in all ritual performances.
Or maybe my favorite Jainism:
He who has the character of a sinner, though he lays great stress on the outward signs of his religious calling as a means of living, he who does not control himself though he pretends to do so, will come to grief for a long time.
As hemlock kills him who drinks it, as a weapon cuts him who awkwardly handles it, as a demon harms him who does not incant it, so the Law harms him who mixes it up with sensuality.
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We're all hypocrites!
by free2beme ini firmly believe that if you talk to someone long enough and know someone long enough, you will learn they are a hypocrite.
i don't think anyone can remain on one theme in their life forever and stick with it, as life is just to much about change to allow this and the human experience is about learning and changing.
when i see people quote others and yell the inevitable "hypocrite" comment in their direction.
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Do you care if DefD stays a JW or not?
by AlmostAtheist indefd/derrick is a current-jw posting on this board.
he's been on for quite some time now, maybe not a year, but awhile.
many have tried to show him the many ways the watchtower doesn't live up to its claim of being god's organization, but he seems unflappable.. so where do you stand on him now?
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Hey...I'm not a Def'd fan to be sure. But to start a thread specifically to "attack" another poster seems a bit over the top. Dave...all the points you have made are valid questions / issues. But would you want someone to gather up all your posts and formulate a thread?
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He's a man of deep thoughts. A legend. A man well on his way to enlightenment. The blank space of his post made me realize that everything has been said that needs to be said....kudos!
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Iraq abuse 'as bad as Saddam era'
by Simon inwell, thank god we went in there eh?
obviously, it was to stop abuse (after the previous excuses fell through).. now that things are as bad as under saddam, i guess that puts the final nail in the lie that they went in to help the people (you know, after their previous lie fell through).. is anyone still under any illusion that bush, blair and co. give a shit about the people or are competent enough to organise anything other than a complete fuck up?.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4475030.stm.
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Dan....LMAO. Sad really....but a funny take on it.
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666 or 616 ?
by William Penwell inseems like all these years bible scholars have been telling us the devils number was 666. seems like this is a mistranslation as the number should have been 616. .
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Or 21 Jump Street
Perhaps 606
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Something I want to tell you apostates
by LeftBehind ini want you to know that you have destroyed a family because of your lies about jehovah and his organization.
a family member went apostate and has turned his back on jehovah.
he told us he is never coming back and i know he went and visited internet sites.
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If I had a nickel every time a JDub said "He/She turned their back on Jehovah". I'd be rich. I love the groupthink at work. They never deviate from this either. Same words, same order, same tone. LOL
But this newbie has a point guys.....I think we should call off Apostate Field Service. Oh, that's right we aren't the ones going around beating on doors trying to convert people. We post on an internet discussion board. One in which is clearly labeled as being Ex-JW's. Someone needs to come find us, not the other way around.
Why blame us. Keep the blame where it belongs. Satan and the demunz made him do it.
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Do any of us really want the truth?
by Qcmbr ini've been reading some essays concerning disagreement online that got me thinking - i won't even attempt to do them justice but to share some ideas that struck home to me.
we spend most of the time here sharing ideas and thoughts often in response to other posts and as arguements to invalidate or re-colour what someone else said.
there is an implicit drive behind each thread to somehow approximate a 'truth' from the many different viewpoints - almost like a collective conscience ('the forum') weighing and then selecting or rejecting the mood of the thread and as we share in the posts we add just a little weight and influence to its direction.
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Sad Emo....."truth is relative"
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Do any of us really want the truth?
by Qcmbr ini've been reading some essays concerning disagreement online that got me thinking - i won't even attempt to do them justice but to share some ideas that struck home to me.
we spend most of the time here sharing ideas and thoughts often in response to other posts and as arguements to invalidate or re-colour what someone else said.
there is an implicit drive behind each thread to somehow approximate a 'truth' from the many different viewpoints - almost like a collective conscience ('the forum') weighing and then selecting or rejecting the mood of the thread and as we share in the posts we add just a little weight and influence to its direction.
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One thing I have found is that when discussing religion with someone, if they admit "I might be wrong about this, but..." usually tend to be pretty enlightened. Those that postulate in absolutes tend to have so many logical fallacies it isn't funny. Of course these "absolutists" can't see how illogical they really are. When you assume you don't have the answers, or that the "truth" you already have may not be true...you tend to become a more spiritual person. The more religious a person is the less spiritual that person tends to be from my experience. But what do I know....I could be wrong. LOL.
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Do any of us really want the truth?
by Qcmbr ini've been reading some essays concerning disagreement online that got me thinking - i won't even attempt to do them justice but to share some ideas that struck home to me.
we spend most of the time here sharing ideas and thoughts often in response to other posts and as arguements to invalidate or re-colour what someone else said.
there is an implicit drive behind each thread to somehow approximate a 'truth' from the many different viewpoints - almost like a collective conscience ('the forum') weighing and then selecting or rejecting the mood of the thread and as we share in the posts we add just a little weight and influence to its direction.
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Buddhism holds that truth is truth, no matter what title or religious affiliation you may have. To clarify the Buddhist’s point of view, it’s like the parable of the blind men and the elephant. This parable is told many different ways, but the gist of it is this: Three blind men were introduced to an elephant and were helped to “see” it by feel. One felt the elephant’s leg. Another felt the elephant’s tail. The third felt the elephant’s side. When asked to describe an elephant, the first said that an elephant is like a tree trunk. The second said that it is like a rope. And the third said it is like a great wall. The point of this story is that all three blind men were correct in their perception of what an elephant is like. Yet, by using their descriptions, no one who had never seen an elephant before could ever identify one.
It is somewhat the same with religion or philosophy. People get so close to their beliefs that they can’t see the whole or entirety of life and how to live it. Most of the commonly held religious beliefs or philosophies have an undeniable element of truth within them, yet none, other than Buddhism, are capable of “seeing” the whole truth of life. -
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Do you have a nickname?
by ButtLight indont ask me why, but my family and friends call me "skinner"!
how about you?
i know a few who have several different ones.
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Maverick..... at work I do things unconventionally.... my boss started calling me that.... now everyone else does. Of course it's been shortened to Mav. LOL
Usually the conversation from my boss is "Has Mav seen this?"